Regeneration before Faith or Faith before Regeneration?

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Regeneration before Faith or Faith before Regeneration?

1) Ezekiel 18:30-32
“Therefore, you Israelites, I will judge each of you according to your own ways, declares the Sovereign LORD. Repent! Turn away from all your offenses; then sin will not be your downfall. Rid yourselves of all the offenses you have committed, and get a new heart and a new spirit. Why will you die, people of Israel? For I take no pleasure in the death of anyone, declares the Sovereign LORD. Repent and live!”
The order clearly laid out is as follows:
1. “Repent, Turn away…Rid yourselves…”
2. “…get a new heart and a new spirit.”
Verse 32 makes it even more simple:
1. “Repent and…”
2. “…live!”
2) Acts 11:18
“When they heard this, they had no further objections and praised God, saying, “So then, God has granted even the Gentiles repentance unto life.”
The order clearly laid out is as follows:
1. “Repentance unto…”
2. “…life”
The Gentiles were not granted life unto repentance, but just the opposite according to the text. And the gospel is the means God grants mankind the ability to believe. He sent the gospel first to the Jews and then the Gentiles which enabled their faith response (Rom. 1:16, 10:14-17). (Anticipating those who might invoke Act 13:48, please read https://soteriology101.com/…/does-acts-1348-support…/ )
3) John 5:40
“yet you refuse to come to Me to have life.”
The order clearly laid out is as follows:
1. “Come to me…” (through faith)
2. “…to have life.”
4) John 6:53
“I tell you the truth, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink His blood, you have no life in you.”
The order clearly laid out is as follows:
1. “Unless you eat…drink” (by faith)
2. “…you have not life in you.”
5) John 6:57
“so the one who feeds on Me will live because of Me.”
The order clearly laid out is as follows:
1. “the one who feeds on me…” (by faith)
2. “…will live”
6) John 20:31
“But these are written that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and that by believing you may have life in His name.”
The order clearly laid out is as follows:
1. “these are written…” (scriptures)
2. “…that you may believe…”
3. “…by believing you may have life…”
Life clearly is a fruit of faith and repentance, not the other way around.
7) Acts 15:9
“He made no distinction between us and them, for He purified their hearts by faith.”
The order clearly laid out is as follows:
1. “He purified their hearts…”
2. “…by faith.”
It does not say He purified their hearts by regeneration so as to make them have faith. Clearly a purified heart is a fruit of faith, not the other way around.
8 ) John 1:12-13
“Yet to all who did receive Him, to those who believed in His name, He gave the right to become children of God— children born not of natural descent, nor of human decision or a husband’s will, but born of God.
The right to be born of God is given only to those who believe.
The order clearly laid out is as follows:
1. “…all who did receive Him…who believed…”
2. “…He gave the right to BECOME children of God…”
You are not even given to right to become a child of God, much less be born again as his child, UNTIL you “receive Him” and “believe in hmHis name.” And while placing our trust in Christ is man’s responsibility, the work of regeneration is all of God’s doing. It does not come by way of inheritance, marriage, works or striving (Rom. 9:30-32).
9) Galatians 3:26
“You are all sons of God through faith in Christ Jesus…”
The order clearly laid out is as follows:
1. “You are all sons of God…”
2. “…through faith in Christ…”
Obviously, becoming a son (born of God) is a fruit of faith, not the other way around.
10) John 12:36
“Believe in the Light while you have The Light, so that you may become children of Light.”
The order clearly laid out is as follows:
1.“Believe in the Light…”
2. “…so that you may become children…”
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Mark Ramshaw
Mark Ramshaw Josh Nauman great examples. I post some others here too. Amazing how all show regeneration is after faith and none before
Let’s see scripturally when the Holy Spirit which does the regeneration is given in relation to faith and Determine if it is before or after faith/belief/repentance
1) disciples of Jesus. They of course believed in Jesus and saw him after his resurrection. They did not recieve the Spirit until as early as when Jesus breathed on them or as late as Pentecost. Both were after faith and not before
2) on Pentecost. People heard Peter preach and asked what shall we do? Peter said repent and be baptized in the name of Jesus every one of you and ye shall ( future) recieve the gift of the Holy Ghost. Again the Spirit is promised after repenting and baptism here
3) the Samaratins . They hear the preaching of Phillip concerning the kingdom of God and the name of Jesus and are baptized men and women. Yet Acts 8:16 says that the Holy Spirit had fallen on none of them for they had only been baptized in the name of Jesus. So the Spirit is not given until Peter and John come and lay their hands on them. Once again the Holy Spirit is given after faith and not before
Then we have Saul in Acts 9. He believes that Jesus Christ is Lord on the road to Damascus and yet he does not receive the Holy Spirit until later when Ananias comes and lays his hands up on him. Once again the Holy Spirit is given after faith and not before.
Then we have Cornelius in acts chapter 10. Though Cornelius certainly fears God and is devout, he is not saved according to acts chapter 11:14. He hears Peter preach the gospel and the Holy Spirit comes upon him while he’s listening to it. So the Holy Spirit again is after faith.
Then we have the disciples of John in Acts 19. Paul explains the gospel to them, they believe it and are baptized in the name of Jesus and after this happens Paul lays hands on them and the Holy Ghost comes upon them. Once again the Holy Spirit is given after faith and not before.
So we see in all of our examples the Holy Spirit always comes after faith and never before just as the order in scripture is always blood first and then oil
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Josh Nauman 11) Ephesians 1:13
“And you also were included in Christ when you heard the message of truth, the gospel of your salvation. When you believed, you were marked in Him with a seal, the promised Holy Spirit…”
The order clearly laid out is as follows:
1. “when you heard the message of truth…when you believed“
2. you were included in Christ…you were marked in him…”
For more on how to better understand the biblical doctrine of predestination presented in Ephesians 1, watch https://youtu.be/fHiuLC0rYNU
12) Galatians 3:2, 5
“I would like to learn just one thing from you: Did you receive the Spirit by the works of the law, or by believing what you heard?… So again I ask, does God give you His Spirit and work miracles among you by the works of the law, or by your believing what you heard?”
The order clearly laid out is as follows:
1. “…received the Spirit…”
2. “…by believing what you heard…”
13) 2 Corinthians 3:14-16
“But their minds were made dull, for to this day the same veil remains when the old covenant is read. It has not been removed, because only in Christ is it taken away. Even to this day when Moses is read, a veil covers their hearts. But whenever anyone turns to the Lord, the veil is taken away.
The order clearly laid out is as follows:
1. “…anyone turns to the Lord…” (by faith)
2. “…the veil is taken away.”
14) 1 Timothy 1:16
“But for that very reason I was shown mercy so that in me, the worst of sinners, Christ Jesus might display His immense patience as an example for those who would believe in Him and receive eternal life.”
The order clearly laid out is as follows:
1. “…those who would believe in him…”
2. “…may receive eternal life.”
15) Colossians 2:12
“…having been buried with Him in baptism, in which you were also raised with Him through your faith in the working of God, who raised Him from the dead.”
The order clearly laid out is as follows:
1. “…baptism, in which you were also raised…”
2. “…through your faith…”
16) James 1:18
“He chose to give us birth through the word of truth, that we might be a kind of firstfruits of all He created.”
The order clearly laid out is as follows:
1. “…give us brith…”
2. “…through the word of truth…”
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